I was on the holy grail as many of are offinding the perfect balance between wash and stick articulation. I have bought and played too many too list. Here are just some, so you have an idea. 21 Sabian bash ride (owned 3), A custom 21 zildj Anniversary, Sweet rides, K custom dark rides and 21 Armand. They are all great cymbals. The new A Series Zildjian is based on the older 60's models in shape and weight. I bought two online. NO ONE carries these in stock! One of these played very much like a sweet ride. For me just too much give and wash and not enough stick when laying into it. The one I kept is the perfect weight (heavier than the other) and has such a beautiful darkish wash to it but still cuts. I play in a loud old school hard rock band. Think Zeppelin, Sabbath, Soundgarden.

Idlewar drummer

Orange County CA