I have seen, heard and played many wuhan cymbals. The smaller ones are prone to breakage under heavy use. But they remain useful (sound barely changes) until completely trashed. And at their price point, its easy to just keep an extra one handy. The bottom line is that you aren't going to get a very long life out of most smaller, lighter, thinner cymbals, and most of them wont sound anyshere near as good as these do, until you start paying twice as much. Want new cymbals at used prices? Look no further.