An excellent product for cymbal stands! This does beat having to buy felt washers often, and these rubber cymbal seats/sleeves are longer lasting, also hold their shape. What keeps it from getting a full five-star rating can be explained in an e-mail inquiry letter I wrote to the manufacturer: Dear Sir or Madam: I have this Paiste 2002 20" Medium Crash cymbal mounted on this double-braced Ludwig cymbal stand, and from intense playing the center plastic sleeve and bottom rubber seat come apart from the top rubber felt, thus the center hole of the cymbal makes contact with the stand's center metal tilter! Because of this, I have had to replace more than one Gibraltar SC-20A Tall Rubber Cymbal Seat Sleeve. What can be done to prevent this? Perhaps the wing nut on top of the top rubber felt needs to be secured, but not too tight.